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February 10, 2012, 02:50:09 PM
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Bossie
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« on: October 16, 2009, 12:09:47 AM »

Tonight i attended a technical meeting @ Apeldoorn and on the way back home a question popped up.
Is it possible within Wisdom to create an overview which shows if there are conflicting applications? This can be the case when for example for one app a registry key should be "0" and for the other app it should be "1"
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 09:17:12 AM »

Hi Bossie,

Welcome aboard!

To your question - So all registry work would be done in Wisdom, and not by the application installation itself?

Because if the application sets the registry key, it would be hard to Wisdom to know....

If Wisdom sets all registry keys, then it might be possible - but it's not an "out-of-the-box" functionality, and you might want RES to help you.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 10:57:25 AM »

HI Bossie,

First of all, RES Wisdom cannot query HKCU keys because it runs on system level, so modifications made to that area by application installations are not accessible by RES Wisdom.

Furthermore what you expect borders on sheer magic. What tool can track down what application makes what change to what registry value and still show some sort of performance? I don't know.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 10:32:21 PM »

HI Bossie,

First of all, RES Wisdom cannot query HKCU keys because it runs on system level, so modifications made to that area by application installations are not accessible by RES Wisdom.

Furthermore what you expect borders on sheer magic. What tool can track down what application makes what change to what registry value and still show some sort of performance? I don't know.

I do know some tools.. as former application repackager, but it involves some big work.
You can use Wise Package Studio for it. It contains an Conflict Manager. But, it involves in reading in the MSI's in the Wise database and if the program isn't using MSI, you have to capture the program and settings and transform them with Wise to a MSI.
When you have done that, you can use conflict manager to see overlapping registrykeys with different values in all programs. (or conflicting dll's .. )
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 04:07:48 PM »

Yes, this isn't really within the scope of Wisdom nor PowerFuse.
There are folks like AppDNA and Camwood who specializes in this kind of analysis.
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Eddie
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 03:33:49 PM »

Hi there,

To me it is not really clear what you want to achieve, But: As earlier stated RES Wisdom cannot read the HKCU. But.... RES PowerFuse can. Certainly with the new 2010 version (product release february 16th 2010) you are able to sample which reg. keys and values are changed by the app. in the HKCU!


greetz, Eddie
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 04:47:47 PM »


...with the new 2010 version (product release february 16th 2010) you are able to sample which reg. keys and values are changed by the app. in the HKCU!


Yes, the samplemode in 2010 could definatly give an idea what's going on in the HKCU, but not in the HKLM. The challenge would however be to hold up two samplemodes against each other. IMHO Bossie would probably be better off preventing an application conflict by virtualizing the apps in question (pick your favorite vendor) rather than curing it.

Just my £0.02
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